More Saratoga & North Creek

First run to Bartons (around mp NC 6), #5 just north of the southern route 28 grade crossing.

 # 5 coming around the curve to Ordways crossing.

 NL sign in the woods next to the tracks.

 Bill Bibby waiting for #5.

 #5 crossing longer bridge a bit farther north.

#5 going north over one of the crossings that crews have dug out in the last few weeks.

In North Creek, the SLRG 518 to the right, SNC 5 then the passenger train on the station track.

Look who's come out to play! SNC 821 all cleaned up and the front stripes have been fixed. Gonna see some service soon.

Brad Peterson

Saratoga & North Creek August 8, 2012

I had to stay on the 8524 to get the train out of the way then spot it for our departure.  That's Ed Ellis on the caboose....

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Brad Peterson

Station in Slingerlands

A month ago I was driving through Slingerlands and had “Albany Main” on the brain. I took a swing over to check out the old Station in Slingerlands. Attached are two photos of it. Circa 2012 and Circa 1995. It’s a lot nicer than it was in 1995 and has been lovingly restored as you can see in the picture. The train that is seen in the pic was the celebration train to abandon from Voorheesville to Delanson. Well as you all know from my previous emails the only abandonment would happen five years later and it would be the section of railroad this train is sitting on.

Dean J. Splittgerber

Duanesburg, NY

Fort Edward Freight House

During my return from Plattsburgh I stopped in Fort Edward to do some snooping around the old 1880's built freight house which amazingly still survives.....Thanks to a confirmation of its existence by Rob Dennis I was rewarded with some pics to share. I gotta say I am a sucker for old Board and Batten Freight Houses especially those built in the 1800's. God only knows how much longer this one has. If it still survives by fall I am looking forward to making another trip over to document it when all the vegetation has dyed down. Its interesting to note the differences in freight houses that were located on the A&S versus the north end. The Battens on A&S freight houses are square, if you look at the Battens on a North end freight house there kind of ornamental like crown molding. The same goes for the rafters on the underside of the roofs. You don't see that on A&S style freight houses but there is Gingerbread molding along the roof line. Fort Edward yard looked pretty busy from the view I had from the freight house. Two CSX Ge's were waiting for a loaded Sludge train while one of the Finger Lakes GE's was switching around in the GE Dewatering facility. A ratty CP Geep was parked in the yard. As I was leaving #253 was coming north.

Dean J. Splittgerber
Duanesburg, NY

Lewistown Jct., PA

Jim Thomas deserves credit for being the first to recommend I visit Lewistown Jct., PA. I rolled into the parking lot here late one morning just before sunrise. Wow I thought.........look at the station! Once I was standing on the platform, Wow I thought............look how far away the tracks are! LOL! You can leave your wide angle lenses in the Civic here Gary. If I was fortunate enough to shoot a Heritage Unit here, I wanted to feature the engine in the photo, more than the station. Of course, this was an “if” statement! The view to the east here ends quickly as the double track main disappears into pretty much a blind curve, while the view to the west runs down a short stretch of tangent track before doing the same. As I walked the platform, I couldn’t avoid noticing the purple benches with plaques dedicating each bench to a train watcher from the area. Gawd, what a place to watch trains this must have been in the steam and early diesel days with the four track main and two tracks close to the platform that are gone in 2012. Trains would come around one curve to sweep past and disappear into the opposite curve! I left that morning to continue reconning the line. A week or more later I returned one night early, mounted the 100mm lens on the 5D and went for a walk along the far side of the tracks here. Liking this angle I set up the lights and stepladder. Train speed is twenty to thirty mph here, and the position light signals protect me from westbounds quietly emerging from the blind curve. Set up finally for an eastbound, westbounds start rolling by me. So I wait, waving to the locomotive cabs as they pass by. The crews seem to notice the light stands further away on either side of the tracks than myself next to them on the lawn! This is a good thing. The hand held scanner picks up lots of broken conversations between crews and before long an air horn is heard off to the west, advertising an eastbound approaching! By contrast, westbounds coming out of the blind curve behind me are much quieter, the nearest grade crossing further away. Thus began the passing of three eastbounds. With no Heritage Engines in the line up tonight, I am free to pick the best set of b&w power I get tonight, and the 7675 passing at 04:33 takes the prize! What a wonderful location! Special thanks to Jim Thomas! Please enjoy the view! Shot in Lewistown Jct., PA. on June 6, 2012 at 04:33 with the 5D and Zeiss ZF 100/2 lens. Comments are welcomed!

All The best In 2012;

Gary Knapp

"Iceberg" Chap 13A

Translating an idea from the prototype into a model.

For those of you who are model railroaders this is a cheap and simple addition to your yard scene. I included a couple photos of the prototypes that got this idea started for me. The 40' steel box car resided in the D&H Hudson, PA yard. I took the slide in 1982. This was shortly before the yard closed and operations moved north to Taylor, PA. The model is made from an old Train Miniature kit. The prototype idea for my wooden car came from seeing this image of the M&U car in Middletown circa 1950. (the slide is not mine. It came from a folio I recieved in an email) It resided south of the present M&NJ engine house in Middletown. My model represents what may have appeared in a Lehigh Valley setting. I don't know the manufacturer of the model I used. I got it unboxed at a train show.

I did not include cars from two eras just for show. I have a modest sized layout. To increase my enjoyment, I'm set up to change out as many as three eras in the same space. In addition to railroad equipment and vehicles I have to switch out quite a few buildings. The two box cars, having the same footprint, make the change easy.

 

Interested in the idea? As said, the re-purposed box cars or containers are simple to model. Want more of a challenge? Try a model of the D&H passenger car from Oneonta that Kip Grant included in his response to Chapter 12.

Hope you enjoy,

Wayne Sittner

My Trip To Vermont (Vergennes Edition)

After leaving the old D&H freight house in Fort Ann I ran up to Whitehall and then over into Vermont taking 22A north to Burlington as my destination was Essex Junction where I would end up swaping motorcycles with the dealer before heading back to Albany. I stopped in Vergennes and took a little break admiring whats left of the "Rut" and its surroundings. What a great little place. I have never been to Vergennes other than switching it on our club's layout (NEB&W). Check out the attached photos taken by the "Master Himself" Jim Shaugnessy courtesy of our clubs website compared to my crappy I-Phone pics. The old creamery, freight house and station are awesome with the Creamery being the best preserved by the Kennedy Brothers. Per there website (Kennedy Bros. Inc. located to Vergennes, Vermont in 1960. The white section was built in 1909 as a Milk Plant Creamery and the red brick plant was built by Sheffield Farms in 1931 for Casein Manufacturing. After they moved in, a complete production area as well as an adjacent gift shop was constructed. Making this a favorite stop for tourists, who enjoyed watching the wood ware being made.) You can learn more here http://kennedybrothers.com/

In one of the pics you can see the baskethandle arches on the side of the freight house which I have never seen before done.


Dean J. Splittgerber
Duanesburg, NY

SC-1's Caboose

A little research suggests that 35799 started its life with the Reading and then came to the D&H right around when Conrail was formed. The Atlas wide vision caboose is a good match for the Reading prototype and it was available in D&H paint - great news for anyone using the caboose in the pre-guilford era. It looks like when Guilford took over the D&H, they welded over some windows and painted it orange and thats how it is today.

 Gotten Rusty in the 10 years since the last shot -- on the Troy I.T in 2011

 Prototype in 1999

 

Working from photos, I determined that all the windows needed updating. On the sides of the caboose, I cut out the windows that are welded over and moved them to the location of uncovered windows. I filled in the middle windows with styrene, and then using a drill-press cut new, smaller windows that I squared up using a file. On the ends of the car, window gaskets shaved off and covered over using thin paper to represent the sheet steel. The paper was glued on using thin CA. The windows on the ends of the cupola don't match the prototype but I left them alone. On the sides, I glued 1x4 material over the top of the window opening to represent work on the prototype.

Stainless caboose steps from Plano metal products were installed over the original plastic ones - these are easy, cheap and really make the model look a lot finer than it is.

I sprayed the model orange with Tamya paint -- something I wouldn't likely use in the future, but it came out OK.

The lettering on the side of the caboose seems to match D&H lettering and I used Highball Graphics F-118 for decals. On the ends, the lettering looked more Guildford-esk - but they are so small, I stuck with the D&H lettering.

 

William Gill

 

 

Point Of Rocks

Another of the many attractive photo locations around the public campground in Brunswick, MD. is the photogenic station at Point Of Rocks! This medium telephoto view has long been a favorite of mine here! Tonight CSX 5242 is coming off the line that goes past Gaithersburg Station which we visited earlier in the trip. I remember getting dusted off by the sixty mph freights there! The freights pass through here at a much slower speed, as behind me they enter onto the double track main west to Cumberland and beyond. Out of view to the left here is the double track main to Baltimore. Let me tell you, it is something else to be standing atop the stepladder here, watching through the Mamiya 80mm as a westbound quietly (and quickly) rolls into the scene! What a backdrop to photograph a train against! Shot on May 16, 2012 at 02:27 at Point Of Rocks, MD. with the 5D and Mamiya 80/1.9 lens. Please enjoy! Comments are welcomed.

All The Best In 2012;

Gary Knapp

"Tip Of The Iceberg" Chap. 12

Thinking about the D&H.....
A round trip from Kingston to Oneonta last weekend has had me on a D&H kick all week. As for the trip, I was curious to see if there was much of the D&H left in Oneonta but, I was also interested in what I would find in the small towns the Ulster & Delaware passed through as well. There were lots of things that captured my attention throughout the day. When I got home I started looking through my slides, taken in Oneonta over the years, and thought an "Iceberg" chapter was possible. The problem was how to approach it. I sent out scans of slides taken before compared with present digital images to some of you during the week. How to chose from scores of images made over many years that I could send to a general audience presented me with a dilemma. I decided on my usual method of sending pictures of the things most folks didn't bother with along with the obvious.

The carts with couplers (5-12-81), an ex Milw Rd box car used for stores (9-82) and the C420 #407 (3-82), were all shot within the same small area by the shops. Of all the engines I took portraits of at Oneonta, why this one? I have a love affair with C420's. Low nose of course!
I made many trips to Oneonta over a period of twenty years. The image of Guilford #374 at FA was from my last trip. (Until last Sunday.) Early Guilford was interesting to me, as was early Conrail. The mix of predecessor equipment made for interesting chances to capture things that were only possible previously by making long trips. Like Conrail, as equipment was repainted the charm was lost within a few years.
The purpose of the "Icebergs" is to share history. I have great shots of the PA's in interesting locations as do 100's of others. I visited Lanesboro in the last weeks of the Penn Div. and recorded things along with about 30 others that day alone. I must admit though that I haven't patience to hang around for the right train in the right location in the right light. I do ocassionally get lucky from time on site however. I like this shot of GP39-2 #7617 (from the original D&H order) at Hudson yard. I got it unexpectedly by just being in the right spot at the right time. This train was moving at a brisk pace on a through run from Sunbury to Taylor. Hudson yard was a favorite hang out of mine until it was removed a couple years after I took this shot.(7-2-81) Today an attuned person can tell there was once a yard there from the random pieces of anthracite that still turn up and the light towers that stand 30 years later. To this day nothing's been built on the site.

Excuse my rambles and enjoy the pictures,

Wayne Sittner

 

 

"Tip Of The Iceberg" Chap11

What to do on a day when it's so hot I didn't even think of going out? How about an "Iceberg"? Ahhhh, I'm feeling cool already.

I've been thinking about this one since Mike Rose got me looking through my files for LV concrete phone enclosures a few weeks ago. He actually found one that still exists near Mehoopany on the old LV Coxton to Sayre line. It looks different than the ones I'm familiar with though? This is some of the stuff my dig turned up:

I did catch a PRR GP 40 at the crossing (B&W) in the '68. Can't explain that move. The D&H was certainly common. In this 1982 image they're making a drop at the Gibbon's Brewery. Note the grain hopper in the distance.

The one I'm most intimate with was at the D&H/LV crossing at Conyngham Ave in Wilkes-Barre. The crossing looking south in 4-80

 Looking north 12-84

 The portrait shot 4-80

As it exisits 6-12 in a recycling plant on N. Pennsylvania Ave in W-B. It's only 100 yards from it's original home.

A model of one on my layout.

Not a lot of chattering this time. I'm gonna have an ice cream soda,

A great weekend to all,

Wayne Sittner

 

 

 

A Trip Down I-88 Part One

I find myself driving up and down I-88 often. Heck I live off of it. And every time I do I always learn or see something new. Attached are some JPEGS of Stations and Railroad Related buildings that still can be found. Railroad buildings along the D&H are becoming a rare species and every year more and more disappear. CP has been flushing itself system wide of anything that can be taxed and is not considered necessary. And since 2008 the pace has increased. Especially for anything built during the 1860's. You can be guaranteed that if a town located along the railroad has obsolete building located there and any increase in Property Taxes occurs it toast! Anyways since the Unnecessary Destruction of the Central Bridge Freight House in 2008 I have started to pay more of an attention to older structures. A lot more that I did in the past as I took everything for granted. I'm still upset that CP destroyed an 1860's A&S freight house one that was very historical and still in great shape. But hey they need to save money to pay for the "Men's Club and Golf club Memberships" up in Calgary for Upper Management! Anyways most of these structures you see are privately owned. Some are in still great shape and some are not. I really love to walk around them when access permits and study there details and think about all the history these grand old structures have witnessed. From the 4-4-0 to the modern day junk wagons that CP and NS employ. To the generations who have lived around or toiled inside of them. From the Horse and Buggy to the Model T to the Chain Drive Mack A/C. From Bi-Planes, DC3's to the Modern Day Boeing and Airbus Products its amazing the changes that have occurred since they were built. Enjoy the pics guys and if you would love to see the Historical version of these images I would recommend picking up a copy of John Taibi's new book Road, Rivers and Rails Vol #1 Oneonta to Albany. Vol #2 is coming out next year. The book is Chock full of Historical images including some of the buildings seen in this email during better times in there lives on the RR.

Dean J. Splittgerber
Duanesburg, NY

Hunt Tower

My first stop upon arriving along the Middle Division of the old Pennsy was here, at Hunt Tower in Huntingdon, PA. Arnold Mooney deserves credit for recommending this location to me for use in instances such as tonights. After driving six or more hours over from Phillipsburg, NJ, I was happy just to watch a few NS freights going by. Fifteen minutes had not passed before a white pickup pulled up with an NS maint. foreman at the wheel, warning me to leave before the NS cop shows up to fine me! You know............getting fined by the railroad you want to shoot could really cut into the vacation fund! So I left to find a campground to set up in, but............. no one said I could not take night photos there. Certainly not the maint. of way foreman, although I "may have been" guilty of not bringing the subject up with him at the time. So the location was marked, it was too good to ignore at night. Little did I know at the time it would be more than a month before I had the opportunity to capture a Heritage unit passing the tower! LOL! For the first couple of weeks the Heritage units operating in this area were either running at night only over the Port Road branch between Enola Yard and the Northeast Corridor or were trailing in the locomotive consist. Tonight however, success is within reach. Having been tipped off earlier by Sean Hoyden of the Pennsy Heritage engine going to the Strasburg Railroad Museum accompanied by NS F’s and business cars to help in celebrating the 30th anniversary of NS, we both concluded it looked promising for the 8102 to lead returning back to Altoona Sunday night. Nothing is a sure thing on NS however, as I had discovered earlier in the trip when the Interstate unit, after sitting for a day or more in Roanoke on a loaded coal train bound for Newport News, was pulled off the train after the new crew was called and reassigned to a southbound loaded coal train bound for Georgia! Tonight, accompanied by favorite conditions for night photos, off and on showers, I am content to have done the best I can under the circumstances, the photo is either going to happen or not. Once set up, I have a steady parade of westbounds to shoot racing past the tower. I consider them practice shots! LOL! Train speed here I would guess to be between fifty and sixty mph............real fast! It was just before three a.m. when I returned to the car to pour another cup of tea................and the magic began. A bell somewhere in Huntingdon sounded three times, announcing three a.m. The car scanner comes to life picking up another approaching westbound two detectors away from me! I jump out of the car and reposition the step ladder along the florescent red painted line on the ground, double check my manual focus on the lens barrel, then climb atop the stepladder. The westbound hits the nearest detector, I hear train 381, it means nothing to me. NS, further endearing itself to me, does not require their crews to identify the lead unit, only the train number when referring to their train. A test shot looks good, then with the train less than a mile away, closing fast, for a few seconds I hear the unmistakable sound of non-turbocharged 567 prime movers working. I break out into a big smile, only the F-units would be out here tonight with 567s! The conductor calling the clear signal at Hunt westbound comes over the scanner, the crossing gates go down, leaving me with one final question to answer...........is the 8102 still leading? The evidence is seen quickly as the cab of NS 8102 negotiates the curves leading up to the grade crossing! The “bright as headlights” number boards give its presence away! I hear the engineer throttle back and think to myself..........oh yes! Then watch the pilot plow up to my mark, and the light flashes out to illuminate the scene! Then the cab is past me before I can raise my hand to wave! LOL! The image, proof of the moment, is there glowing on the back of the camera. Oh my god! After shooting black and white diesels all night...........what a beautiful paint scheme! The massive GE dwarfs the trailing NS F-units! And Hunt Tower provides the perfect backdrop. Special thanks to Sean Hoyden and Arnold Mooney for their help in obtaining this night photo. Shot in Huntingdon, PA. on June 04, 2012 at 03:03 with the 5D and Mamiya 645 format 80/1.9 lens. Please enjoy! Comments are welcomed.

All The Best In 2012;

Gary Knapp

Off The Trail

The first Heritage locomotive I crossed paths with on this trip was, surprisingly, on the Delaware Lackawanna here, east of Scranton, PA at Moscow! Earlier this year Michael Thomas had invited me down to shoot the partly nocturnal Portland Turn which runs out to East Stroudsburg from Scranton, returning in darkness near Scranton. I emailed Michael about my upcoming trip and how I would look up the job tonight while I was passing through. So here I am, at nine pm, first night out, having slept a few hours in a nearby State Park, set up and waiting trackside in Moscow, contemplating the locomotives I will get to shoot on this job. Reminding myself how this would be a first for me, to shoot an ALCO under the lights at night. LOL! I was prepared for a four or six axle Century. It never entered my mind that they would lead with one of their trio of RS-3s! Nine thirty passes, and aware the crew outlaws at eleven, I’m wondering if I missed them. Just before ten pm I am relieved to hear train sounds, real ones, not created by my mind, as flanges squeal and a rail or two groans off upgrade to the east. Then headlights through the trees and the faint sound of idling ALCO prime movers. The head end rolls slowly around the curve, the engineer gives me a couple of toots, and I focus on the ditch lights as the pilot plow drifts up to my spot. In the pitch dark I had no clue of the presence before me of an as-built ALCO RS-3. When the lighting went off I glimpsed it, and watching the image appear on the camera lcd monitor left me speechless! By this time 4068s cab is passing across from me and I wave into the darkness. The crew didn’t really need to see me, they have seen the expression I was wearing on the face of many ALCO fans they have run by in the past! LOL! At night, not knowing what is coming, the impact of the moment is tremendous! The crew stopped below me to set out several lumber loads, backing up to where I was, next to the stepladder. I mumbled a thank you to the conductor, who climbed down off the car and set the hand brake before walking up to the next car. I thought I knew the heritage of 4068, as being an original Delaware & Hudson RS-3, but..............in checking on the net for this photos caption, I am overjoyed to realize 4068 also spent time working in Vermont as Lamoille Valley 7801! My favorite among the Lamoille Valley RS-3s for retaining its high short hood, I had lost track of the engine after it was bought by the York-Durham Railroad up in Ontario. Who would have thought we would cross paths again in the future................in 2012? What a way to begin this trip! Shot in Moscow, PA on May 1, 2012 at 22:04 with special thanks to Michael Thomas! Please enjoy! Comments are welcomed.

All The Best In 2012;

Gary Knapp